Treasure found at gun show today!
 

I was pretty disappointed at the gun show today. The prices on the firearms I was looking for were about 20% more than I was looking to pay and I couldn't find enough of the ammo I was looking for (7.62 x 39). There were literally 8 boxes left and the guy wanted $15 a box.

I picked it up anyway because of the way prices have been rising lately.

I was able to pick up 1000 rounds of .40 cal for $160 - but way more than I used to pay for it. What is going on here??? I couldn't even find any .223 ammo at all. I guess it serves me right for catching the show in the final 2 hours of the last day.

However, what prompted me to post this thread was the steal I got on 5 silver eagles! I picked them up for $60! I couldn't believe it!

The guy said he was selling them for 18 a piece. I asked how much for all 5 of them and he said, "uh, how about $60?". I said deal, took the coins, gave him the cash, and went home.

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Holy cow! Congratulations! :applause_

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Thats a great deal - especially in the last couple of weeks with the silver coin shortage going on - so especially well-done!!

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Buying silver at $6 under spot sounds like a pretty good deal. :s9:

Shameful Behavior
 

If the man said that the coins were $18.00 each and then made a multiplication error, you owe him $30.00. There is a law greater than the criminal statutes in your state, one that you will one day answer to. You have committed a grave offense, a sin against the Seventh Commandment -- Thou shall not steal -- and are bragging about it publicly, causing scandal.

You need to find him, apologize and make reparation by giving him the $30.00 that was originally due him (but for his mathematical error). Then return to this blog and publicly apologize to those you may have scandalized.

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I beg to differ. I always receive a discount for buying in volume. Obviously the man was simply looking to unload them. When silver closed in at $20, I saw someone trying to dump mexican Monedas ... because they were ugly and they weren't even classed as bullion at 92.5. He offered a price .. I asked how much for the entire lot in one transaction. He lowered his price to be rid of them more quickly.

There is shameful behaviour here. But it's not JP's. Quit trying to damn someone for what you weren't witness to. You lack the facts to to do anything but 'bear false witness'.

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Holy moly... Slow down there, partner! LOL. Jumping to some pretty quick conclusions, aren't you?

The guy didn't say, "Well, five coins at $18 each equals $90." He said "how about $60?" when asked "how much for all five." I'm sure you see the distinction here, ppius.

If anyone owes an apology, it's you to JP for practically damning him. As long as we're using scripture to cast aspersions on one another, how about removing the plank from your own eye before trying to accuse JP of having a speck in his... your vision is clearly obstructed.

Of course, the whole idea of following Jesus is to love your neighbor as yourself, not go around condemning people as sinners and pointing out there (imagined, in this case) flaws, oh blameless one.

Re: Shameful Behavior
 

He who is without sin can cast the first stone.

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If the seller had intended a "volume" discount, he would have stated so. The discrepancy could have been resolved by asking him.

Further, I "damn" no one, but sincerely underscore accountability to a greater authority. Whether JP (or you for that matter) suffer eternal damnation, I am in no position to say. To steal, however, is objectively a grave offense.

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If you're in no position to say, say nothing. To steal is an offense, but hardly a grave one. And last time I checked, be paid cash up front, to the exact value the seller asked. As to whether the seller stated anything of the sort, again I ask "were you there to witness?" No, you weren't.

You're wrong. Admit it, get over it, and move on.

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"To steal is an offense, but hardly a grave one."

Is that so? Please cite your moral authority.

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The "volume discount" was inferred by JP asking a price on ALL available coins, and the dealer answering with a firm price. Maybe the guy just wanted to get rid of the coins. Too many assumptions being made here. But there certainly is no "theft" involved. Get real !

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You first.

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No, you know what? I'll open.

Source

You're up, sport.

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Stealing is a grave sin because it is included in the Ten Commandments.

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And at what point did JP make the claim to be a Christian? I don't believe Buddhists have a Ten Commandments, do they?

Anyways, this is all irrelevant to the initial point. If you want to keep this line going, start a new thread for it in Religion. JP paid the price asked. No theft involved ... and the merchant obviously knew well the value of his merchandise.

Re: Shameful Behavior
 

you're assuming that this seller made a math error
i've seen many sellers give a big discount just to get rid of something
and if this seller did indeed make a math error
whether thru his not knowing the spot price of silver
or he may just be bad in math

there's no law that says JP has to correct someone else's math

ppius13, you owe JP an apology


plus you're assuming JP is a christian
what if he didn't follow/believe in the bible ( no offense intended, JP )

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If JP is stealing, then the dealer in town asking $24.08 an ounce for 1 oz silver bars is stealing too.

Anyways, JP, awesome find!!!!

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At a coin show yesterday, I had a dealer try to tell me that Peace and Morgan dollars were "about an ounce of silver."
Once I corrected him, he dropped his asking price for junk dollars from $19 to $17 a piece.

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What brand is the ammo and how many rounds come in each box for $15?

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What a load of shiet!

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"Judge not, lest ye be judged."
Jesus of Nazareth, c. 29AD

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I don't think it was a math error but if the guy was just looking to get rid of them he would have offered $85 and then went lower if JP balked. Guy wouldn't have a table if he didn't know how to sell. Obviously he has very little knowledge of the silver market. I would have met the guy halfway w/ $75 and informed him after the exchange. But what JP did certainly wasn't stealing.

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And what about the dealers that sell SAE way over spot on ebay and some jackoff pays the price.......is that stealing as well or just a prudent move on the part of the seller?? If that is "sinful" then you got a chit load of emails to write to sellers on ebay!!!!


Man got a half deal and you want to "burn him at the stake"



Step down of that dayum soap box and breathe a bit .......



T

Re: Treasure found at gun show today!
 

Hey Guys,

I appreciate MOST of the responses. It's not often you find a hot deal but when you do, you gotta take it. I talked tothe guy at the booththat I bought the coins from for quite a while. He really wasn't too interested in the silver at all and knew very little about pm's. He was really into guns but was selling them for way more than any reasonable man would pay and he also had a random assortment of police badges that he had for sale.

As the for the coins, I expressed my interest in them and he said they were just some old coins that he bought a long time ago. He didn't know what they were worth and I told him spot price for silver was $18.

I asked him if he would give me a deal if I bought all 5 and that's when he told me he would take $60 for them. It was his offer, not mine.

PP - you need to chill out and stop trying to bring the wrath of the Holy Lord down upon me. I didn't "steal" anything from anybody. I was offered a deal, it appealed to me and I took it.

If I offered you 1 SAE for $12, would you turn down the offer?

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Honestly, you wouldn't notice a coin shortage out here. The coin shops have plenty on the shelves and even at the coin show I saw multiple tables selling different variations of silver coins.

Re: Shameful Behavior
 

PPius - you are being antagonistic and you really have no place to make judgements on my character.

But since you want to play that game, you have just commited a grave offense yourself....a sin against the 9th Commandment -- Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

Let's worry about ourselves and our own actions - and leave the judging up to God.

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The brand is Fiocchi and there are 20 rounds in each box (full metal jacket, 123 grain).

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Thanks guys!

Another thing I will add for anyone interested, STOCK UP ON .223 and 7.62 AMMO wherever you can get it!

It was pretty much gone within the first 5 hours on the first day, this weekend. After talking to several of the dealers, this stuff is going to continue to rise in price on a weekly basis. Even if you don't own any guns to fire the stuff (although I recommend you get those too :wink:) it is a good investment. Pricing on all ammo, but especially these two types, are going through the roof...and that's before the big tax hikes that are coming.

Another recommendation, get a good LR .22. Great gun for hunting and ammo is still very cheap.

Just my 2 cents...

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Yeow, that's $.75/round for 7.62x39! Seems expensive. I think if you order online by the case you can get closer to $.18-.20/round. :bear_thumb:

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7.62X39 ammo? Try http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/defenseh_cfh.htm

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If nothing else, you've got a serious motivation to improve your shooting. At that price, you can't afford to miss.

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You are right...it was a complete rip off - but people were buying it at that price like it was going out of style!!

I bought the last 8 boxes available in the entire building.

I did some checking online and you are right, you can get it for anywhere from $.18 to $.25/round - but most websites I've looked at our completely out of stock.

I wanted to pick it up while it was still available - and there is an added incentive when you can pick it up with cash. I really don't tlike to make purchases online, especially not "large" quantities of ammo.

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The underlying irony of this righteous hulabaloo is that most readers seem to have given the basic veracity of JP/Veritas' 'guns-and-silver' story the benefit of the doubt to begin with, :haha:

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showt...882#post947882


Incidentally, anyone know what the gun laws are like in Israel?

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Last time I looks, you give them your foreskin and they hand you a gun. Mandatory service, isn't it?

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Please take your advertising and you slanderous remarks somewhere else.

It's not my problem that people don't click on your links anymore, Pat.

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Wow, ammo is getting really expensive these days. I'm glad I stocked up on 7.62x39mm back in 2000 when it was selling for $99/1000 rd case delivered. Granted, that price was for Russian manufactured steel cased ammo which probably isn't as good as the stuff you're buying for $15/box, but much more affordable to shoot.

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At those prices, you might want to consider selling your AK and buying a replacement AK in 5.45x39mm. I normally would never suggest such a thing because I love the 7.62x39mm round and own several rifles in that caliber, but with 5.45x39mm presently selling for around 10 cents a round it's something to consider.

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I hear you...and 10 cents/round is a steal!

The only reason that I paid what I did is because something is better than nothing, and I feel the crunch coming. It's going to go up in price, well beyond what I paid yesterday...and that is IF you will be able to find it (several websites are "out of stock" right now).

I will also always be willing to pay more if I can pay cash.

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When the seller asked for $60, I would have offered him $50. What level of hell am I going to?

:smokin:

BTW ppius13, Don't read Agnut's horse trading thread, your head may explode.

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As far as I'm concerned the only "thieves" at that gunshow are the dealers charging $15/box of 7.62x39mm ammo.
:D

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:haha:

Yeah, all in all, I barely broke even.

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aimsurplus.com has what you want

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Aww, that's precious... another JP/Veritas quote for our "best of" collection!

And who could forget this old gem,
As a "juristic person" like yourself already knows though, a claim can only slanderous when it's incorrect. A claim isn't be slanderous when it's verifiably correct.

Carry on your jooristic fable about how you jood the gun show vendor now, V! :hahaha::bath:

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Okay, I'll share a similar story to the one the OP noted.....about a year and half ago when silver was still languishing in the low teens, I picked up 5 SAE's on E-Bay......the guy listing the coins was obviously an inexperienced seller and horrible with a camera, as he had a blurry picture of 5 shiny coins and a vague description that referred to "5 silver eagle dollars" or something to that effect. He had very little feedback as well so no one, I mean NO ONE, was bidding. In the picture, the coins were housed in a Kennedy Mint coin case, which seemed odd, since I do not ever recall seeing SAE's offered in this way..

As blurry as the picture was, at a certain angle I could definitely see the outlines of Lady Liberty, so I took a wild-ass shot at it and won the auction for the 5 SAE's for $17.50, including shipping....okay, no way, I thought...this guy is going back out of this as fast as can be when he sees the sell price...I paid immediately and got the coins a week later....the Kennedy Mint case was kind of dirty and worn when I opened the package..uh oh, I thought, here we go.....but then I opened up the case, and there were 5 gleaming, perfect SAE's staring back at me. Never before or since have I ever had that kind of luck on E-Bay or elsewhere. It was one for the books indeed.

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Great deal!

On second thought, maybe you should contact the seller and give him more money...:sarc: